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Disney’s sweet fairy tale hides a grim, violent 1812 Grimm manuscript where Snow White’s biological mother (not stepmother) orders her heart and lungs cut out as proof of murder. The Original Ölenberg Manuscript (c. 1810) preserved in Berlin State Library shows the mother as villain; stepmother change came later for “family values.”. The tale is rooted in real medieval folklore of jealous mothers, cannibalism, and child abandonment.
The Brothers Grimm's version of Snow White.Date was published in December 1812 (Berlin). In this post we shall see that (a) a Total Lunar Eclipse of 27 Feb 1812 (b) its progression to 20 December 1812 when volume 1 of the Grimm Tale was published elegantly explains the story.
The total lunar eclipse is significant for Berlim since it aligns with the angles. The eclipse Sun/Pluto conjunction is square the asteroid Ceres on the MC
Osiris [4pi] - ASCENDANT [6pi] - Sun [8pi] - Tisiphone [8p]
Tisiphone explicitly governs "crimes against kinship" (e.g., filicide, fratricide), and Osiris adds the "dismemberment" motif (literal violence or symbolic severing of ties).
Ceres/Pluto
Power issues or psychological nasties in mother-child relationships.
About the stars conjunct the eclipse Moon, Diana Rosenberg : With Hydra, 2 black holes and a dark nebula, there is a violent, brooding, malignant side to this area that can manifest as aggression, cruelty and malevolence...Here Mama Bear shelters her cubs — but in the shadows lurks Hydra, the many-headed monster.
Diana Rosenberg’s Key Points (Paraphrased & Quoted) for Location: 6°–8° Virgo (Moon)
Stars Involved: Thuban (α Draconis) —linked to “murder and violence”(Vivian Robson)
Alioth (ε Ursae Majoris) — in the tail of the Great Bear (nurturing mother)
Hydra stars (background): 2 black holes + 1 dark nebula (astronomical features)
Rosenberg does not say “filicide” — but she does imply:
Family dynamics under extreme pressure
Protectiveness that can become destructive
Dark maternal or familial impulses (e.g., smothering, control, rage)
Rosenberg upgrades Thuban from Robson’s generic malefic to archetypal family drama.
SYNTHESIS: Why This Chart Screams “Snow White”Archetype”
Archetype | Chart Symbol | Grimm Tale Echo |
|**Wicked Mother** | **Moon on Thuban + Hydra** (brooding maternal malice) | Biological mother (in 1812 ms.) who orders heart cut out |
| **Mother–Child Violence** | **Ceres □ Pluto** + **Moon | Jealousy → attempted filicide |
| **Dismemberment / Death–Rebirth** | **Osiris conjunct Asc/Sun** | Huntsman ordered to **remove heart/lungs**; Snow White “dies” and revives |
| **Avenger of Kin-Crime** | **Tisiphone conjunct Asc/Sun** | The **mirror** (truth) and **dwarves** (justice) eventually punish the mother |
| **Public Exposure** | **Ceres → MC** + **progressed Moon square Ceres** | Tale published → **mother’s crime made public** |
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