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Matteo Salvini and the Winds of Change


The ocean (Neptune) pounding the land (Saturn)


They apparently don't understand that the more they slander it, the more popular it becomes. It is massively oversubscribed and the organizers have been forced to double the capacity. 

The most powerful figure in the anti-globalist trend in Europe today, Matteo Salvini, a hero to the populist-national right and scourge of globalists, is welcoming them to his populist stronghold, Verona, ground zero for the anti-globalist uprising, and giving the keynote address at the conference on March 29. 


Matteo Salvini is an Italian politician serving as Deputy Prime Minister of Italy and Minister of the Interior. He has been considered as a hard Eurosceptic politician, holding starkly critical view of the European Union, especially of the euro. Salvini opposes illegal immigration into Italy and the EU as well as the EU's management of asylum seekers.




  Salvini’s horoscope as given by Astro-Databank [1] is reproduced here.  From his horoscope it is not too difficult to see the reason for his policies. Mark the prominent T-square with Sun-Venus at the apex square the Saturn-Neptune opposition. Saturn is the planet of boundaries which Neptune loves to dissolve and breakdown.  A beautiful metaphorical image of the eternal struggle between Saturn (land) and Neptune (ocean)  is the sea pounding the rocks on a coastline and dissolving it over time with the  coastline fighting  to maintain its unique identity.


Neptune upholds selflessness as a virtue, potentially to the perilous point where we become enfeebled martyrs. If we see someone drowning, do we just jump into the depths and try our best to save them, neglecting to consider our swim skill-level or the condition of the water? Are two drowning casualties any nobler than one?

From Saturn's perspective, our time is limited and our resources finite… and we must be deliberate, constructive, and disciplined in how we spend it.  We thoughtfully pick-and-choose where we aim to make our difference, for the sake of both efficiency and functionality. The best-of-intentions is meaningless if it doesn't yield some concrete improvement.

An opposition between Saturn and Neptune is therefore, in a sense,  also  a conflict between nationalism and globalization, between maintaining boundaries and opening them to immigration.  The current Neptune transit over Salvini’s radix Sun is the primary trigger that has made his struggle between Saturn and Neptune so acute. 

In her post, Saturn/Neptune: A History Lesson, Lynn Hayes [2]  gives an example from a previous Saturn-Neptune opposition.

 One of the more interesting events of the previous Saturn/Neptune opposition of 1899-1900 (with Saturn in Sagittarius and Neptune in Gemini) was the Boxer Rebellion against foreign influence in China which took place during the final years of the Qing Dynasty. The Boxer Rebellion sprang out of nationalist fervor against foreigners and Chinese Christians.

Going back to Salvini’s chart let us note that the T-square turns into a Grand Cross if we add the TNPs Zeus and Kronos.  Martha  Wescott provides the following  interpretation:

Kronos-Zeus:  to be angry at leaders, laws and government (EU?) ; to present opinions with an undercurrent of strong feelings; leaders on the edge of restraint;  to see attempts to push leaders or officials into precipitant action.

Finally we look at Salvini’s diurnal horoscope[3]  for March 29, the date of the start of the conference. The diurnal MC is [12vi19] exactly conjunct his TNP Zeus [12vi49]! The Sabian symbol [4] for his radix Zeus and the diurnal MC is so revealing!!


PHASE 163 (VIRGO 13°): A POWERFUL STATESMAN OVER-COMES A STATE OF POLITICAL HYSTERIA.

KEYNOTE: The focusing of the collective need for order and structural interdependence into a personage who incarnates the answer to this need.

We are at the stage where a powerful realization of the very purpose of the cycle of existence faces the chaotic remains of a dis-structured past. The character of the leader is always delineated by the need, subconscious though it may be, of the unformed agglomeration of entities he is called upon by destiny to lead.  We have before us a personage endowed with CHARISMA, this elusive and mysterious power that comes from a man's or woman's openness to the power of planetary evolution.


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